How the TONOR TC-2030 USB microphone is?

Br
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Does anyone know how the TONOR TC-2030 USB microphone is?

I would like to buy it on Amazon to use on Twitch.

Here you can find the microphone:

https://www.amazon.de/...07TSN2H9D/

Do you think it's worth it for 80 euro, or is the mic not good?

Would be good if you could help me.

I thank you in advance!

ju

Well from what I have found out, it is definitely better than the junk other people call a microphone and definitely worth the price. The problem is that it has an integrated amplifier and converter. This makes the setup smaller, but you almost always have more noise and poorer audio quality.

But I would rather recommend microphones from t.bone (Thomann), they have been on the market for a very long time and are still considered very good. A similar price without a tripod would be achieved with the t.bone SC 400 and the Behringer UMC22 (the driver is junk, but if you use a voicemeter it doesn't matter) audio interface. There are also USB microphones, for example the t.bone SC 450. As a small bonus, you can use it to support a German retailer instead of Amazon.

Br

Thank you for your help. But can you explain to me the upper part of the microphone that I have chosen again? The explanation confuses me a little sorry!

ju

A condenser microphone (like any other microphone) generates an analog signal that a PC can't do anything with at first. This requires phantom power (usually 48V, condenser microphones need a power supply in contrast to dynamic microphones), an amplifier and an AD (analog to digital) converter.

Normally, condenser microphones are connected to an audio interface with an XLR cable, which contains the necessary electronics and usually forwards the digital sound to a PC via USB. USB condenser microphones have this electronics already integrated so that they can be connected directly to a PC. Unfortunately, there's usually saved on the quality of the components, which reduces the audio quality and leads to more noise. The amplifier can't be adjusted on any of the models I know.

Br

How about the noise when I turn the level down in the Windows settings for the sounds?

ju

Then the volume is reduced digitally and there's a little unnecessary amplification on the analog level. It becomes very problematic if you make the signal louder digitally, which means that the quality is considerably poorer. In general it is therefore better to set the amplifier correctly and to do as little digital as possible. In most cases this is a minor problem unless the amplifier is far too weak (which, according to my research at Tonor Microphone, I do not assume).

Br
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The whole thing confuses me… I'm COMPLETELY confused… I'm now unsure… I just need a USB microphone, and none with a lot of technology… I don't know whether to get it or not.

Er

The micro seems to be ok for its money. Without a sound test it is of course bad to assess. For another in the price range, I have a sample:

I don't know whether that is better from amazon

Br

Thanks, but I've already ruled that out!

Er

Oh well, that's fine. What was it about that exclusively?

Br

I excluded him from my ideas about which microphone I would like to buy.

Er

Because of the microphone arm?

ju

If that is too complicated for you, such a finished set would of course be the easiest and, as I said before, it is definitely worth it for the price.

Alternatives:

Probably a bit better in terms of sound, but with a tripod it would be a bit more expensive: https://www.thomann.de/...50_usb.htm
And this would be a bit cheaper but also pretty good: https://www.thomann.de/...op_set.htm

If you want, I can explain the whole thing to you over the weekend via Discord or something like that, in text form I don't think this will do much.

Br

No, overall from the set. I looked at this set of course, but the set is simply impossible for me.

Br

Why not, I sent you a friend request once. In any case, thank you for the help!

kh

What do you want to record? Mummy sitting on the pot two floors higher?

If you want to speak / sing, then you should buy a vocal mic! With these microphones you don't want to transmit what is going on next to the speaker / singer, if possible.

People with similar microphones, I mean Eraser, have already been there, keep asking how they can delete unwanted signals / noises from their recordings - advice: If you hadn't even recorded what you didn't want! It wouldn't have happened with a suitable microphone.

A high quality vocal / speech microphone is the AKG P5; You can't save on the interface either. It should definitely be a Steinberg UR12 or UR22!

ju

Advice: If you hadn't even picked up what you didn't want! It wouldn't have happened with a suitable microphone.

A dynamic microphone also picks up unwanted noises. Some of them are weakened or they are absorbed normally because they are in the correct frequency range. In addition, you have a much more natural sound with condenser microphones.

Of course, you can't use a condenser microphone on a stage, but if you want to stream properly on Twitch you should have a suitable room for it anyway, which is much closer to a studio than a stage during a live performance. There's always slight background noise with PCs, but you can get rid of it very easily by simply deactivating the sound below a certain sound level (if you then speak, you drown out these noises by far).

kh

I would like to know where you got your "wisdom" from.

Of course, different condenser mics are also used on stages, the construction principle makes the suitability.

If I had to plow a field, I didn't choose a Ferrari as a work tool.

ju

Of course, different condenser mics are also used on stages, the construction principle makes the suitability.

On the one hand, this statement was exaggerated and, on the other hand, one should pay attention to the context:

It's about large-diaphragm condenser microphones
Low price segment where no special parts were installed to compensate for the problems, such as the Neumann KMS models
for voices and not instruments or other sounds

In such cases, you would be much more likely to use a dynamic microphone, for example because dynamic microphones are much more robust and you don't necessarily have the budget for a new microphone if you opt for a relatively inexpensive model.

The fact is that with large diaphragm condenser microphones you get a very good sound image even in the cheap range and you can do without advantages such as a higher resistance to feedback from dynamic or more expensive condenser microphones in this area of application.

If I had to plow a field, I didn't choose a Ferrari as a work tool.

The comparison lags enormously. With a Ferrari and a modern plow, this is practically impossible, because a Ferrari has far too poor traction if it doesn't get stuck in the field without a plow. A studio microphone, on the other hand, is very well suited for voice recordings, even with slight background noise.

I would like to know where you got your "wisdom" from.

I pulled it out of my hat just like you did your wild speculation in the original answer. A little hint: I have exactly 0 questions on this platform and because of the extremely irrelevant discussions on this page, I only use the username here.

Br

Such answers come out of it if you don't read the previous answers… Well. Thank you, but I don't need one with an interface.

kh

Unfortunately, I'm not as good as you. It took me 10 semesters and years of practice.

Gu

I need a mic for singing ( vocal record ) . I don't need so much compilation And i don't have so much money. For buy xlr mic because xlr mic need phantom power, audio interfere etc. So I need good quality mic + use mic + not higher in money. I am just expecting decent vocal record by mic that's all i want.