Good & cheap gaming PC's?

Was 7, 8 years loyal console player, then recognized what (Xbox & co.) Eigl. For a money-hungry criminal society, then I have waived 1 year on gaming & now I would like to grow a nice gaming PC, now the problem.

Had prices in the head of 400-max600 euro in mind (as much as I had then spent synonymous as Xbox360 new and then XboxOne was new) when I then looked around for beautiful gaming PC's, I'm at the price immediately out of socks like. Prices from at least 1,000 euro - 2,000 euro upwards 3, 4,000 euro, prices from which you could buy a nice used car. + 2 monitors, keyboard, mouse, Elgato (if you want to record something), everything costs a lot of money again. (PC-table & headphone w / headset I have luckily still over.) How do I get a nice gaming PC, which costs me not too much? Does jmd know?

A gaming PC does not have to cost 3000 euro. Since you have definitely misunderstood something, or you have looked at the wrong pages. Mine cost me 600 euro, and I can play all games fluently and even on high settings. It does not need a 300 euro keyboard and monitone, etc. Just because it shines. It's exactly the same as an ordinary keyboard.

You do not need branded products either. Nobody can see on which keyboard or PC you are playing anyway.

Just because "gaming" is on it, and it costs a lot of money, does not mean it's good.

What do you have? And what graphics card does he have? (Sorry, just search yourself)

Build yourself is the best variant to get a good PC cheap. Would that be in question for you? And if so, how much would you want to spend just for the PC?

800 euro I would be willing to pay but all these utopian mind. 1.000 euro prices stop there for me. Unfortunately I do not even have to tinker, had dealt with the subject of PC / technology X times in my life & unfortunately never learned to use it effectively.

Unfortunately I'm not sure, but I have a GTX 1050 TI

Would you like to learn it effectively? For 800 euro you get a super gaming PC

You say yourself that you have the temptation to try everything in your life (Source: your first question)

With a PC gaming is cheaper in any case but rather more expensive, but that is also due to the more flexible hardware but also higher quality than a console. Once you compare the graphics between console and PC, then you will find that the graphics in PC games is more detailed.

As far as the hardware is concerned, for about 700, - €, you can get a gaming machine that shows FULL HD in good quality.

If you do not want to build yourself, then in any case, I advise you to visit the website of Hardwarerat, there you will find gaming PCs in almost all price ranges. (You can't configure it yourself with HardwareRat, but the PCs are cheap.) HardwareRat always offers useful configs.)

If you want to build yourself, it would be good if you tell us your budget. Please keep in mind, however, that most of the operating system (Windows 10), mouse, keyboard, a headset and possibly a monitor still added.

A good middle-class gaming PC usually consists of

an AMD (Ryzen 5 1600 or 2600) or INTEL I5 8xxx (motherboard must match the CPU)

16GB RAM

a graphics card AMD (RX 580 or Vega 56) or NVIDIA GTX 1660

Which are super pc's in your opinion? Are these worth a recommendation? https://www.amazon.de/...21&x=0&y=0

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https://www.amazon.de/...21&x=0&y=0

edit: yes that's right but is Pc programming a thing that you must have experienced in life?

Many thanks for your response. Be sure to drop by on HardwareRat. Are these PC's worth a recommendation?

https://www.amazon.de/...21&x=0&y=0

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https://www.amazon.de/...21&x=0&y=0

Apart from the outdated and partly not available, they are too expensive.

I would never buy a computer (except laptop) from one of the major manufacturers, because you always pay.

They are both totally overpriced scrap.

Since when do you have to program a PC? Building a PC does not mean that you have to program something, you just put a few parts together and save a lot of money.

Of course you have to install Windows but that has nothing to do with programming.

So you should build your PC yourself? I think yes, but the experience that you collect it would be worth it anyway in any case.

So my question remains:

Would you like to learn it effectively?

Which on HardwareRat would you recommend me because or which has the best price-performance ratio? Honestly, do not pay attention to the difference to the others (outside of HardwareRats), they are all pretty expensive.

The 700, - € PC at HardwareRat corresponds to a good middle class gaming PC which is more than adequate for FullHD gaming.

But that's just a recommendation because of the performance class. The P / L ratio is always very good at HardwareRat no matter which PC you buy there.

The for 700 euro I like it but schonmal 'be quiet! I would also like 1300 'if it was not so damn expensive. What would have more of what the 700 euro PC does not have what would justify the 600 euro more? & how much € would I have to budget if I want to be "full equipped"?

If you mean with Full Equipped what you still need to accessories, then that is

1) Monitor (Gaming - Full HD - min 120Hz) from about 200, - €

For example: https://www.mindfactory.de/...30220.html

or normal min 23.5 "from about 100, - €

for example: https://www.mindfactory.de/...60223.html

2) Input devices (mouse and keyboard) (Antigosting for gaming cable-bound)

from about 25, - € keyboard

For example: https://www.mindfactory.de/...24313.html

+ mechanical keys from about 60, - €

for example: https://www.amazon.de/...076X28769/

and mouse from about 20, - €

https://www.amazon.de/...07H94XB82/

3) possibly headset (for Teamspeak and sound output) from about 30, - €

https://www.mindfactory.de/...99978.html

So you are depending on the claim between 450 and 180 euro for the additional equipment. Windows is already included in hardware advice, so you do not have to expect anything extra for Windows.

But a simple monitor can often be replaced by a possibly existing TV. And if you do not need Antighosting and limited to a simple PC speaker, then you can also get the mouse, keyboard and PC Box together for about 40, - €. (Then you always reach into the lowest drawers).

What is better with the 1300, - € PC at hardware advice than with the 700, - € PC

1) instead of about 200, - € graphics card is the much more expensive and faster RTX 2070 (surcharge about 300, - €)

With an RTX 2070, you're more likely to play games in 4K.

2) Then instead of a six core CPU an eight core CPU (surcharge about 150, - €), the two additional cores are rather not used in pure gaming, therefore no advantage in pure gaming. Benefits arise if you still have applications such as video editing, rendering or other compute-intensive applications.

3) stronger power supply (due to stronger graphics card and CPU needed). In addition, the power supply has a 10-year manufacturer's warranty instead of 5 years, so in my opinion a bit better.

4) faster M2 SSD with PCI-E connection

Then the housing, motherboard and the memory are slightly higher quality. The case also falls under personal taste.

Please do not misunderstand, BeQuiet as a manufacturer or brand as far as OK. But the big hype about BeQuiet components is not understandable, there are other good manufacturers.