How to move from NVME-SSD to normal SATA SSD without reinstalling?

As mentioned above, I would like to clone Windows 10 for testing purposes from an NVME SSD m2 to a "normal" SSD. Because the boot process should be faster.

Will say wiele, but install new and finished, yes, but exactly what I would like to avoid.

Most users want the most exactly the other way round, so from Sata to m2 and fail at the different drivers that need the SSDs, as I certainly synonymous.

Sure, I have the same problem the other way around. I once tried to uninstall the NVME driver before, then Win10 m2 boot SSD with the standard driver boot (poor performance, etc.) to let and later to install the Sata driver.

Unfortunately, this did not work, the system did not boot anymore, after uninstalling the NVME-SSD driver from the m2. So System Image played back with the NVME driver and PC starts clean again (again from the m2 NVME-SSD).

PC is a Ryzen7 system Samsung EVO 960 m2 - 250GB, 32GB RAM and W10 1809 with all updates and a 1050Ti Graka, Board is the X370 Gaming Plus with latest drivers and bios updates.

Have also deactivated the m2 times in the bios, so that the PC finds only the normal Sata SSD. Otherwise there would be 2 bootable SSDs in the system.

So how do I get out that I can start the PC first with "standard" drivers, without NVME driver of the m2 and can create a second backup without the special M2 driver?

Then boot from the Sata SSD and integrate the normal Windows SSD driver there. When the test is over I would like to return to the normal m2 Config, as the computer was before.

Thanks for tips.

ps: Software I have Acronis, Clonezilla, Samsung Magican, Gparted and Win PEs available, if that helps.

Because the boot process should be faster.

That certainly is not true. An NVMe SSD is only faster in certain cases, namely when copying large blocks of data - and this particular situation has the normal user i.d.R. Not.

Of course you can try it for fun, but it will not do you any good in my experience.

As far as cloning is concerned, I do not understand your comments. I've never had to install an NVMe driver, nor am I seeing a problem cloning from one storage media to another, as long as both are visible under Windows.

Incidentally, I use Macrium Reflect Free for cloning, cloning is done directly in Windows, and the software is also great for creating data shards (images).

In the beginning, when setting up and setting up Win10, I had to install a NVMe driver from Samsung that has the m2 "full power". It ran that way too, without the driver, that's right, but had read / write times below a normal HDD. With the NVMe drivers, the 1-2 Gb / s are fully there.

Applications and so load but all with "SSD speed" quite normal, PC runs so far afloat, only the boat dawdles me too much.

Have a lot to do with videos (FHD, sometimes 4K) and move large image files and ISOs, etc. When copying (over 300 MB / s duration), etc. I have no problems and could also leave the PC. Therefore, installation of NVMe causes.

Only the boat with almost 40 sec I do not like quite so, for such a "big" box. Therefore, I want to test as times, whether I'm with SATA "faster" when booting, if the NVMe anyway not fully exploited.

Since it was just said and was written in the network that the Windows startup is not accelerated by NVMe, so I wanted to compare so yes with a normal SSD times.

After the test I would have kept the "faster and more stable" configuration for me, Sata or NVMe.

From Sata to NVMe worked great at that time the migration, but I succeed now no back to the normal Sata.

From Sata to NVMe worked great at that time the migration, but I succeed now no back to the normal Sata.

Try Macrium Reflect Free:

https://www.heise.de/...89710.html

Ok I'll look at the tomorrow, ehm today ;-) times. Greeting. I'll report then.

Yes, give me a feedback. Good night ;-)

Windows clone as it is, and later adjust accordingly on the target SSD.

So far as the clone process has worked. But the UEFI (?) Is always looking for Windows on the m2-SSD. So boot files from the normal SSD correctly but Windows continues to run from the m2.

If I deactivate the m2 completely in the bios, the computer does not start any more, he says that no operating system is installed. Sure the cloned Efi folder does not find the C: \ on the m2. But editing these Efi files is sure to be complicated.

Bottom line, unfortunately it did NOT work. Too bad.

Yes OK. And how is Windows adapted then?

Install missing drivers and remove unnecessary ones

Thanks for the feedback. A pity, but from here I can't help you there.

Have the rest of the day tried again in peace and read things before. So with the EFI folders was already correct, because the boot disks are saved.

I then completely reinstalled once and once on the Sata and then on the m2. So I first had an EFI file with 2 entries.

Then I once copied the clone on the m2 and once on the sata. I worked with the classic Clonezilla with a boot CD or stick.

Voila both booted clean, it was like a dual boot dialog, which Windows I want to start. Everything ok, the test but still nothing much brought except bit of what learned.

Namely, booting to the dialogue took another extra 6-8 seconds, then the EFI looked for "his plate" (4-6 sec) and then the normal boat of 40 sec. Between the m2 and the Sata were effectively no 4- 6sec "profit", which was massively canceled out by the long changeover during the boot process.

Have now set up again on normal m2 and again have my 40 sec boot time, which although I feel as long for SSD, but the calculator but it runs properly. In operation, everything is fixed and have copy times around 500mb / s.

Sense of the test should have been yes, if the Sata SSD had been "faster" in the boat, let's say 25sec, I would have left the system on the normal SSD, but since I did not win at boot time, but I all on again m2 put back.

The junk must be somewhere on the board, but another topic.

Because of the Win10 logo to the password input pass just 6sec and maybe so 8 sec until the tray everything is loaded, so the system is "completely" ready.

Interesting, thanks for the feedback.

I had just had something similar: in a Lenoco notebook, the HDD swapped for SSD - but Windows 7 cloned. I had also promised more speed when booting - as I know from other computers, this was a bit faster than the HDD, but not as it should be. Could not continue to experiment as it was a productive customer notebook.