Mint condition bought used second hand?

Sh
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Last week I bought a CE (Collector Edition for the Ps4)

The price was 265 euro including shipping. The seller had offered the item on the platform Ebay. I have written to him if I could buy these immediately because he had them as an auction in it. But there was no bidder on it. He said we can do that and sent his email.

He said we should run directly through Paypal that he saves the fees on eBay and then removed the offer on eBay. Was okay too I could understand. So I bought directly through PayPal with Buyer Protection. A few days later, the CE arrived. Unfortunately, this was not new but had already damaged the packaging. The content of the protected in the box was also damaged but this definitely can't happen during transport. The seller does not seem to care that much instead he asks me to send 255 euro via Paypal via the Friends and Family feature then he would send back the other amount I paid. Then I would have 10 euro. Did not do that of course and have also told him that 10 euro are too little for the various shortcomings. The CE should have been new. Now he does not answer. I asked him to solve the problem together with me otherwise I turn Paypal on. Is not that scam too? The damage can't have occurred during transport. How would the legal situation be? Also, he does not have the text on eBay: private sale no guarantee or redemption. I would be very happy about an answer and thank you in advance for your effort

in

Offered as "new"? Then the article differs roughly from the description. The cards are so good for you. Set him a deadline.

" Private sale, no guarantee or return." is nonsensical and would not help him either.

Sh

I have already set the eats I hope so that he wants to solve the problem without the help of Paypal from the world.

But is not it by the way still cheating?

in

Only if it is obviously not new / was. Then, in the best case, you can even file for performance of the contract. He would then have to procure the part in new. At least there were such cases already.

Ra

Actually already because he offers virgin material and sends used.Nur as if Weis et says you had damaged the goods? Can happen too.

Ab

There's no buyer protection outside of eBay. One must even be careful that this practice (set first, then take out when buying bid) is not followed. Likewise it is with abuse of the friends function with PayPal. This is not meant to save commissions.

Sh

Why should I damage my own things? In addition, I took photos directly and sent them to the seller.

Sh

This is unfortunately rubbish the Paypal Buyer Protection attacks anyway.

Since it was not on EBay was no eBay buyer protection.

In the pursuit I agree but is right, is possible.

Ab

Well then report, if that still works.

Sh

You can activate the buyer protection only 8 days after the purchase. But I hope the seller wants to clarify it to me.

This with Paypal is done, so to speak. But could not I report it for fraud?

Ab

As I said, since it was only on ebay in there and then was taken out to save the commission, could possibly affect the PayPal buyer protection. Basically, there are of course also outside of ebay PayPal transactions that have buyer protection, but these run correctly.

Sh

Whether they always run correctly? If you meet such a seller as I then rather not.

Da

Even if you have bought ebay over, here could grab the PayPal Buyer Protection.

The 100% buyer protection is guaranteed with correct Paypal payment only by ebay. Paypal has a few Ausweichichtürchen.

Open a conflict with Paypal after the appropriate time: https://www.paypal.com/...ht-faq1344

"Article does not match the description."

Also, he does not have the text on eBay: private sale no guarantee or redemption.

Whether a private seller has written this text in his offer or not does not matter. Even with private sellers an offered and sold article must correspond to the description:

https://www.t-online.de/...rkauf.html

Save the offer.

Ov

Mint:

.is a name for goods that is NOT new but whose condition is 'as new'. It is second-hand goods, which, however, was well maintained and in which one noticed no or only very slight differences from the actual new product. The goods must be original packaging or still be completely flawless.

in

Sorry, reading error. Play in this case but probably no role, because in a bad condition.

Ex

No, since you received something it is not a scam. It is only a deviation in the nature of the goods.

Sh

Many Thanks