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Hi, now that Article 13 will be launched in 2 years, YouTube and Twitch Insta will… Still going on in the EU?
In Germany and some other countries, Article 13 has been approved, but without the introduction of the upload filter.
When? As far as I know, that's not possible
How should it go without an upload filter?
Now stop to believe in any nonsense that is being told by idiots on YouTube and elsewhere!
Of course the platforms will continue to exist, the world will not go down and there will be no zombie apocalypse and no such nonsense!
It will change fundamentally nothing (!)! As before, you will not be allowed to use and upload third-party content, platforms will continue to be responsible for the content on their pages, and you can still be punished for using third-party content without permission. It has always been like that and it will continue to be like that.
Only the platforms are now more committed and they will have to give more of their lucrative profits more to the rightholders.
According to https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/urberrechtsreform-deutschland-sagt-ja-groko-zoff-beendet-61251514.bild.html, the federal government actually issued a statement of the minutes during the vote on Monday (April 15, 2019) which emphasizes that the national implementation of the directive should not require the controversial upload filters. "
Time will tell. YouTube had once announced to stop the service in Europe, but practically this is of course very unrealistic. YouTube has been looking for a solution for a few months already and how they will react to it will just be revealed. But I personally think that in principle not even that much changes on YouTube itself, but it could of course lead to anything possible and in the worst case just that only certain companies or people with long reach videos can upload.
Twitch is similar. This will probably no longer be able to save videos in the archive or the archive will be completely abolished. But even there it will only show the future. On all other platforms it is the same
As far as I know
that's the big problem! Hardly anyone knows what but they all just believe they have to oppose it and have to protest against it
Yes that's also right. Only in hindsight turned out that with EU law is not feasible
E.g. By registering and verifying your identity in order to upload something, you can easily identify the perpetrators of violations and penalize them accordingly
But that is not so in A13 or 17. This is clearly spoken of a filtering.
But that is not so in A13 or 17
It does not have to be!
This clearly speaks of a filtering.
that is nonsense!
It is NOT spoken by filtering, but it is up to the platforms themselves how to keep their pages clean! Filtering is a possibility, but not the only one. Each side can think for itself what it wants to do and how.
Mess with the politicians that all services within the EU because of this will no longer be accessible (or severely limited).
Rest of the world may continue surfing as usual.
Article 17 does not even mention something like an upload filter…
It will most likely not be that bad. As I said, the future will show what exactly happens, but no company has an interest in losing such a big market as losing Europe completely
Why is there then the platforms from a certain size or age company have to install the upload filter?
That is NOT there, this is just one of the stupid assertions that were spread by the agitators to the people against the reform!
Is nowhere. But you can like to link the corresponding site as a source.
Mess with the politicians that all services within the EU because of this will no longer be accessible (or severely limited).
how come you on such a nonsense?
That is not right. The right holders get from the profits in principle, first nothing. The only thing they have is that their works are not distributed, but they are not financially rewarded. Because that will ultimately be the publishers. The publishers must agree with the companies and then decide for themselves what they want to give away to the real creatives (which has greatly benefited them by article 12 and even harmed the creatives)
But apart from that no one knows exactly what will happen. Of course, nothing could change, but that's not a fact, it's just the best case. It depends entirely on the reactions of the platforms and also Verläge on (incidentally, long before the law with billions of claims to throw around)
Tell Kunfilum himself in his posting. I have heard the same from others.
No problem, writes an experienced media lawyer in his blog:
"Thus, StartUps can only be exempted from using upload filters if they meet all of the following three criteria:
the platform is younger than 3 years old
It generates an annual turnover of less than 10 million euro
it has less than 5 million users per month
Ultimately, this would lead to the following situation: The reform would not only hit large platforms like YouTube or Facebook, which would actually benefit massively by users uploading content that they can monetize through advertising. But also small commercial apps, websites and user forums, which are mainly about opinion and information exchange of users - because many of them are already older than three years. "
https://www.wbs-law.de/urheberrecht/geplante-urheberrechtsreform-zerstoert-artikel-13-wirklich-youtube-78689/
Um, that's not what I said (actually, it's the opposite). I said that YouTube had announced it, but most likely it will not happen in practice, as YouTube has no interest in losing the entire European market. But these are all just speculations. Practically no one knows exactly what will happen, even if theoretically, of course, anything could happen
That is not right. The right holders get from the profits in principle, first nothing.
But, alone on the basis of the current §32 Urhg, as well as §§54ff UrhG
Because that will ultimately be the publishers.
You probably mean "publishers", right?
Of course, nothing could change
But, it has to change something, because that's been decided in the copyright reform nunmal!
but only the best case
That nothing changes would be the worst and stupidest case! It can't go on like it used to, it is long overdue that something changes!
I have heard the same from others.
Again, do not believe any nonsense that some stupid creators spread to pursue their own goals!
But, alone on the basis of the current §32 Urhg, as well as §§54ff UrhG
Yes, these are the normal laws that existed before. I meant that the reformers would not pay the rights holders additional, as is often claimed.
But it
Must change what, because that's been decided in the copyright reform nunmal!
The "nothing" was up here
It will change fundamentally nothing (!)! As before, you will not be allowed to use and upload third-party content, platforms will continue to be responsible for the content on their pages, and you can still be punished for using third-party content without permission. That was
always sound that will continue to be so.
based. That the reform must be implemented is logical, but just how will be revealed.
That nothing changes would be the worst and stupidest case! It can't go on like it used to, it is long overdue that something changes!
Yes, in principle it is not a bad idea to reform the copyright. Just not with this reform.
With "nothing at all" I meant in the case that it could have no too big negative impact on the use of the platforms, which would be very desirable for the users.
