Mac Mini or Windows pc?

Br
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Hey guys I want to get a new device. I want to live out in productivity and creativity (music production and video editing), but also office, which of course suits the Mac Mini, but I might also like to play sims or lol or vainglory, sometimes casuel I play on the console (I'm a console child;)) Can the Mini Mac do this? Because he is actually not meant to gamble, and what about live streaming (Twitch), can he? Which configuration should I get then (on the Mini Mac or on a PC)?

I look forward to your answers 🙂

Sa

As comparison. My MacBook Pro 2017 can play Minecraft openly with Discord and Edge.

Pa

Windows PC because Apple is overpriced they feel like paying 1% for the production and 99% profit. At home I only have Android or windows. I play on my laptop Gta5 and things like that work perfectly

Ju

Get Linux that's the best, I recommend Linux Mint

If necessary, you can also simulate Windows and run all Windows programs with one program, it is much more stable and has many other advantages

Ca

I agree in principle, but it must be said that running Windows programs does not always work without problems.

Ju

Then you can install a VM

Co

The Mac Mini is overpriced and not well cooled, it can hardly be upgraded or only requires a lot of effort and does not support a graphics card.

Although you don't necessarily need a graphics card because the processor has a graphics chip, Apple unfortunately still relies on Intel processors, and their graphics units are really bad and often cause problems even in simple games. In your case, a PC with a Ryzen 2400G or 3400G would be ideal. These are both quad-cores with 8 threads and a pretty strong graphics unit. Actually perfect for office and casual games.

Furthermore, you should make sure that the PC has either 2 x 4 GB or 2 x 8 GB RAM with at least 2800 MHz.

How much do you want to spend?

Co

Even though I already knew that the Mac Mini was overpriced, I was just horrified at how much Apple asked for the quad-core model.

900 euro for:

A Quadcore i3 without SMT (= 4 threads)

8 GB RAM at 2666 MHz

128 GB SSD storage

For example, you get https://www.dubaro.de/GAMING-PC/AMD-Ryzen-GAMING-PC/Gaming-PC-Ryzen-5-3400G-mit-Vega-11::3571.html for 500 euro:

A Quadcore Ryzen 5 with SMT (= 8 threads)

8 GB RAM with 3000 MHz

240 GB SSD + 1000 GB HDD storage

In addition, the PC from Dubaro is fully upgradeable, you could later install a better processor, more RAM, an additional graphics card, etc. Most of it is easy even as a layman, or you can have it done by a professional. You definitely have the option. The processor of the Mac Mini is soldered and can't be replaced, there's no space for a graphics card or additional memory.

Rough comparison of processor performance:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/...3406vs3498

Rough performance comparison of the graphics units (Intel UHD is in the Mac Mini, Vega 11 in the PC from Dubaro):

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Intel-UHD-630-vs-Radeon-RX-Vega-11/3826vs3893

Br

Thanks but how does the price of the Mac Mini come about? And I heard he can stream 4k right?

Br

Not me for programmers or hackers? I'm sorry I haven't heard much about Linux…

Br

Gambling is a minor matter, it's much more about productivity… It would be nice to know if he could…

Br

So you think you could hook up with the Mac Mini every now and then… Towards strategy games?

Br

Do you think the Mac Mini could not play strategy games? Or simulations?

Sa

I would trust him. You just have to be able to do without good graphics, then you should be able to do it

Br

And graphics cards are currently all too expensive

Sa

For complex stories such as video editing, it should also be a computer with the appropriate resources, because especially with video editing you can't have enough cores and power. Mac Mini is a joke.

I have Mac Mini at work (administration). With MS Office on it. This is a bit slimmed down compared to the Windows version. In addition, the standard Apple keyboard comes without a number pad, which annoys me with Excel tables. The Magic Mouse has a touch instead of a scroll wheel, which is nice for tables, but I imagine corrosive in games. It is not unusual for eas to shift by mistake.

Mac Mini is nice and small and silent. Disadvantages is that several applications cost additional. There's a lot of freeware and open source for Windows.

I find Windows 10 caustic with the update requirement. It's like a subscription. You do not know which forced update shoots what.

Think it's a good time to have a look at Linux if you haven't stuck to certain programs that don't work under Linux.

Br

You don't have to take the Apple mouse or keyboard.

Co

Both processors are able to play Ultra HD content. It's also not a big art for current CPUs.

Apple's price comes from several factors:

The Mac Mini is very compact. This has advantages and disadvantages, above all it increases the development and manufacturing costs.
Apple offers relatively extensive advice and customer support. You pay for that too.
Apple loves profit and relies on most Apple buyers not to inform themselves and to be impressed by Apple's marketing and the pretty cases and buy their computers, even if they are massively overpriced and sometimes technologically backward. The main thing is that they look good.

Which strategy and simulation games are you talking about exactly? There are some strategy and simulation games that are very demanding on the PC. For example Anno 1800, if you have several settlements, or StarCraft and general strategy games in which there are many units. Here the Mac Mini would surely overheat and reduce its performance if the games were even available for Mac OS, which is not the case for all games. Depending on the game, the Ryzen PC might get problems for 500 euro. However, if we balance the budget and a PC for 800 euro or more comes into question, it almost certainly gets along well with almost all games. At 800 euro there's also a usable graphics card. I don't know how you got the idea that graphics cards are currently expensive, AMD and Nvidia are pretty price wars going on, and both have recently launched one inexpensive graphics card after the other.

Here is an example for an 800 euro PC, and of course here again the comparison to the 800 euro Mac Mini:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/...3243vs3406

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-vs-Intel-UHD-630/4045vs3826

The 2600X is of course clearly superior to the i3-8100B of the Mac Mini, it is faster and it is a Hexacore processor, while the Mac Mini in the 800 euro version only offers a quad core. And there's even a graphics card in the budget, and a pretty good one, the 1660 Ti. It is almost 10 times as powerful as the tiny graphics unit of the Mac Mini. With this PC, you could even play current games without any problems at medium to high settings, and Office is of course no longer worth mentioning here.

Ju

It really doesn't have to. It's also a good thing for normal people.

Co

Thanks for the award. Here is the PC for 800 euro, I probably forgot to set the link:

https://www.dubaro.de/GAMING-PC/Gamer-PC-XL-Ryzen-5-2600-mit-GTX1660Ti::3333.html