With the new generation of consoles coming soon, it is also time for me to get a new television. My PS4Pro is currently playing on the Panasonic TX 55 CXW 704, with which I'm still very satisfied.
Compared to this, the new TV should have the following characteristics:
- 4K 120 Hz
- 65 inches
- HDR (all formats if possible - I don't know exactly which ones are important)
- HDMI 2.1 including all gaming features such as VRR etc.
- good black level
- liquid operating system (my current Panasonic is very laggy, which becomes annoying in the long run.)
As you can guess, I mainly play on the TV and use streaming services. TV rarely. The TV is mainly used in the evenings in a rather dark room.
Actually, I'm currently wavering between the following two models:
-Sony KD 65XH9005
- LG 65NANO867NA
I see differences between the two especially in the panels: The Sony has installed a VA panel with local dimming, like my current Panasonic.
LG has installed an IPS panel, which is more stable in the viewing angle, but there's also a risk of clouding (no idea whether this is correct, if not please correct.)
Overall, I tend to prefer the SONY, I see the only disadvantage here in the built-in VA panel.
Which of the two would you recommend, or do you have suitable alternatives?
My price range moves up to a maximum of approx. 1300 euro.
I thank you already times in advance!
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I bought the LG 867 myself for the Xbox Series X and currently the One S is on it. I'm very satisfied & can't complain.
The Sony is too expensive compared to the LG. Especially for the fact that the LG dropped in price a few days ago & significantly more models with HDMI2.1 will come onto the market in 2021.
So I would not spend too much money on the playback medium & choose the LG again.
But that should be a problem with OLEDs in general. All panels, including those for other manufacturers, come from LG.
Even LCDs have the problem with VRR, only it's less noticeable there.
I just wanted to throw it in. One should also keep in mind
You address the panels: In fact, I see it exactly the opposite way. VA panels are much better than IPS for televisions, with exactly one exception: when a lot of people are sitting around the TV, e.g. Watching football. And they have to sit very diagonally in front of it. VA, on the other hand, offers much better contrast. Here in the forum, I often advise anyone who values image quality from IPS.
As I recently learned, the Sony has an internal bandwidth limitation with HDMI 2.1, which means that a little bit of image sharpness is lost with 4K120. The bottom line is that it is a very decent device in terms of price / performance, currently the price for the 65 "version is already going up to 1200, I think that would be great.
A hardware fix can be expected for the models next year at the earliest. It's not ideal, but it doesn't seem to be a serious problem, especially since VRR can be switched off.
Thank you first. Looking at the TV from the side doesn't really matter at the moment, my partner and I sit relatively centrally in front of it and anyway while gaming. My current Panasonic also has a VA panel, it hardly bothered me and I found the local dimming, which the sony also had, nice, especially the contrast values. With the LG IPS panel, I'm rather scared of a lousy display with clouding. I'm hearing about the bandwidth limitation for the first time, can you explain to me what is meant by that and to what extent this is actually noticeable?
Otherwise I would really be more at Sony, maybe Christmas or BlackFriday will be a good deal.
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but is very technical.
Clouding with IPS is less of a problem with televisions than the poor contrast.
Samsung's mid-range QLEDs (Q80T range) would also be an option, but as far as I know, these are much more expensive. We don't even need to talk about OLEDs in size.
So for 1300 you can't go wrong with the Sony in my opinion. Maybe it will be even cheaper in the next few weeks.
What do you think of the lighting? Unfortunately, the TV only has Edge LED and the poor black level and the mediocre lighting are often criticized. Important for me because I often use the TV in dark rooms.
I have now informed myself about the bandwidth limitation of the Sony. According to reports and tests, the TV does not achieve 4K at 120 Hz, but only upscaled images. For me that borders on fraud on the part of Sony. It's a shame, otherwise the TV would have everything I wanted. But then unfortunately I can't use the "wrong" 4K 120 Hz. The outdated processor is probably to blame, which means that even a firmware update can no longer save anything. At the moment I'm really desperate because the LG TVs are hardly an option for me because of the IPS panel and the mediocre illumination and the lousy black value, as I increasingly play in a rather dark room with indirect or less light. On the other hand, these have everything I want except for the aspects. It's to run away: /
With a couple of settings I was able to set the picture satisfactorily, but I don't see it as critical.
