I have a question about consoles as it was a topic with a buddy. You can use the following two scenarios: 1x monitor FullHD and 1x monitor 4k
You now want to gamble on the monitor.
Ranking of the consoles according to the graphic on the FulHB monitor
Ranking of the consoles by graphic on 4k
The strongest of the current gen is the Xbox One X, followed by the Ps4 Pro, then the standard PS4, and finally the Xbox One S.
All the same whether I connect this to a full HD or 4?
You could connect all 4 to a 4K monitor but only the Xbox One X and the Ps4 Pro are some 4k ready and yes that doesn't matter
OK thanks.
then I can only go by price…
Not necessarily the Xbox One X has often been sold for only 299 euro in the last few months, making it cheaper than the weaker Ps4 Pro
Is currently more expensive again
https://geizhals.de/...Xbox+One+X
Yes, although you shouldn't buy them so shortly before the new one anyway
Basically it is advisable to wait until the Christmas business -> for the next-gen consoles Xbox Series X and PS5
FullHD
1. Xbox One X
2. Ps4 pro
3. Xbox One S
4. Ps4
4K
1. Xbox One X
2. Ps4 pro
3. Xbox One S
4. Ps4
The Ps4 pro is not true 4K ready
Unfortunately (again) wrong - the normal PS4 is in front of the XBox One S, and very clearly!
Clear?
😂Haha, the ps4 only has 0.6 teraflops more power, which is really nothing at all.
In addition, the Xbox One S can do much more:
4K films and series via Blu-ray as well as Netflix and co. Play.
Upscaling to 4K, which the Ps4 can't (at least the normal Ps4).
The Xbox One S will receive 120fps support in the future.
Games jn 1440p run much better on the Xbox One S.
At 4k or FullHD or basically?
The normal Ps4 doesn't support 4K at all!
And the games run identically on both consoles! At least with FullHD, the Ps4 can't do more than FullHD to my knowledge
Mimimimi… Neither does the One x and nu?
Xbox One X
Ps4 Pro
Ps4 Slim
Xbox One S
Not correct
Yes it is. Only some games that really need a lot of power are upscaled, that's also completely okay, but with the Playstation 4 pro almost all games are simply not 4K ready and that will probably not change with the Ps5 either, see Ubisoft and AC Valhalla.
The One S is inferior to the normal Ps4 because it has installed the significantly weaker Apu
What should be wrong?
Unfortunately so much wrong again 🤦♂️ (I won't correct you again):
0.6 TFlops more with the PS4 is approx. 50% more with a performance of 1.3 TFlops with the XBox!
4K upscaling as a function is useless because every television can do it.
The X1S already has 120 FPS support, but as far as I know there's exactly 1 game that uses this, and there won't be any more.
The X1S struggles to manage 1080p, there's no talk of 1440p.
And another comment on the FALSE AGAIN: The games do not run identically on both consoles! Where the PS4 manages 1080p, the X1S often manages 900p, while the PS4 manages 900p, the X1S often only 720p. See google.
Why should your Xbox One S be at the bottom if the Ps4 Slim doesn't even pack 30fps correctly and only supports FullHD?
The One S supports upscaled 4K in games and natives in films and most of the games run in 60 frames per second
Unfortunately, games are not running identically on the One S, the resolution is often set down, for example 900 instead of 1024p
or even 720p (Call of Duty Ghosts)
Tombraider Definitive Edition is also a nice example of Xbox One's 30 Fps Ps4 45
Apart from that, the Ps4 can only play 4K Blu Rays with multimedia just as 4K it can't play due to the lack of a drive
Your reasoning reveals that you don't know your way around. An upscaler is not a sign of good graphics. The Xbox One S is the weakest of the four here.
Look at the TFLOPs, then you will know. If you even know what TFLOPs are.
You're talking about outdated games here: -D.
And no, the Ps4 does not generally support 4K.
Keep on dreaming…
I also never said that the resolution has something to do with the graphics, you have now rhymed that together. And the weakest here is clearly NOT the XBOX ONE S! The graphics are perhaps slightly better, but you just don't notice any difference and you simply have a better experience on the Xbox One with the support of real 4k via Blu-ray, streaming and games, even if the third is only upscaled 4K the console it at least compared to the Ps4
Why should i dream
The mode already exists.
And purely by chance I work at Microsoft in Stuttgart and can assure you that in the future the Xbox One S and X will get a little nudge in terms of refresh rate and resolution.
There's only a 0.5 teraflops difference!
This is nothing!
You may see a little more in the distance and you have greed and sometimes a bit sharper textures, but that's it! Teraflops are not important! Especially in this example
The Ps4 Slim has the potential for better graphics. That's the way it is, purely mathematically. And if there are only a few more bushes or the exposure is higher.
Here, read this. Is even a link to DF, which are very serious. https://www.turn-on.de/play/ratgeber/neue-ps4-oder-xbox-one-s-kaufen-die-konsolen-im-vergleich-95086#h2_summary_1
That tells more about you than you really want… Xbox Series S is not the old Xbox One S
And where should the performance for it come from but hey you can upgrade the Apu of my One S for Natives Uhd or Wqhd
The few games on the Xbox One S that run with 60 pictures and native 1024p buy the whole thing. A lot of trickery Forza, for example, dynamically reduces the graphics settings
The multimedia capabilities of the box are only partially good, for example, the box is the only DVD player where you can't remove the bars left and right with 4 to 3 content because the box sends the whole thing with the bars in the picture scaled to the TV
🤦🏼♂️
😂😂🤦🏼♂️
It doesn't help you to touch your forehead even if you really work with MS. You can't ignore the facts
The example with the 4 to 3 contents doesn't do any other DVD player, it takes a quasy the possibility of such contents fill the screen again (I know that one then has egg heads)
Correct reading and understanding is not your strength or…
I didn't say anywhere that it only plays in 4: 3 films
I said 4: 3 content on DVDs. Gives them upgescalt with bars left and right to the TV and no other player does that
So it is not possible to reproduce such content on a 16: 9 TV if you use the box as a DVD player simply because it already sends these bars to the TV
And yes, that's your own experience, as a Microsoft employee you would have to know that but it was the same with the Xbox 360, by the way
You can test it yourself… Take a DVD from the Terribly Nice Family
They will not be able to get the bars off left and right
You are now inventing some reason again to badmouth the Xbox although this problem that you describe is the case with every DVD player, including the Ps4. For example, there will be these edges, but this is not the console itself but the DVD which simply has too little image data returns because it may be out of date
With the Ps4, I can turn off these edges just like with normal players on TV, but the box sends out 4: 3 content with these bars so that they then belong to the picture and that takes away the possibility of putting it on TV
I don't invent anything I don't need to have an Xbox One S on the shelf myself but have only been using it as a 4K Blu Ray player for a long time
for me it's too bad for games
Too bad?
Haha it runs just as well as the Playstation 4.
And I've just checked, you can cut the page format and the image section individually, which eliminates this problem you invented
You can't do that with native 4: 3 DVDs… Other players send the picture without squashing it with bars if you want to give it back in 4: 3, you just switch it on on the TV
The Xbox takes that choice but completely
And stop talking about the 0.6 tflops
For devices that have 1.3 (Xbox One and One S) or 1.9 (Ps4 without pro) of these, those are worlds so much on the subject of running just as well
What I think is good for the Xbox is that it can control WQHD monitors native with 1444p that the Ps4 can't
But nothing changes to the remaining facts
By the way, I have: a Switch, an Xbox One S, and a Ps4 pro and also had a standard Ps4
However, I also have a PC with RTX 2070 Super and the latter has long been my main platform, so I can see things more objectively than you might think
The Xbox One S has 1.4 teraflops and the Ps4 1.84, that is only 0.44 teraflops more power, but it can't be seen at all. The consoles are basically the same speed, only it loads a bit faster than the Xbox One S, but that's not the world. If you were to talk about 1 teraflops performance, then it would be a bigger difference. And also what does the Ps4 with its 0.44 teraflops bring you more performance if you get the better resolution package and frame rate package from the Xbox? The Playstation can't even do 1440p. Which is really sad.
If you don't get it because the games run natively worse, what's the point if a game is changed to 900p, then the stale pulls just wide
dub can't conjure up a lack of performance
I've never noticed my console running in 900p or worse. That can't be at all.
Ryse Son of Rome for example is rendered in 900p even if the console sends 1080p to the TV but I don't even try to explain it
Okay, that's okay.
However, this is no different with the Playstation 4. Only games that are optimized for 1080p run in 1080p, otherwise you buy the console in 720p